Warrior Secondary, Best for Everyone? - Guild Wars Forums

RexAxyzun · Mar 06, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

If you tell me to just search next time, I wont. I searched warrior build and just warrior, it came up alot of random crap, so shut it and just hear me out.

This is about warrior secondaries in PvE NOT PvP

I have played every profession, and I keep coming back to the warrior. It is so amazing how cool the armor looks, and how many people hate me in PvP because of my uber pwnage. The thing is, I dont use a secondary professon in pvp, pure warrior here baby. Anyways.

My first thought would be a W/R or W/N. Dont mind my noobness but there are spells that when someone physically attacts you, hey take damage. I dont know if these are traps or enchantments, whatever, its effective in PvP ill tell ya that. But warriors are major short on energy as it is, so I kinda moved on.

Second thought: Monk. Every warrior i have seen today is monk. I believe this is classified as a "TANK" And i can see why. I also believe tanks use shields, who cares, their beasts, high damage, average heal when monk is an absolute noob. anyways.

Just asking for ideas, dont wanna take a crap secondary only to find out I will suck ass in the long run (Pardon my language)

Thanks, and cheers.
Lieutenant Grigs,

PS: I AM A SWORDSMAN / STRENGTH WARRIOR.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21

a) U can change secondary's as many times as u want so in the end it doesnt make THAT big a difference.
b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's:

Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet
Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez,
Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock
Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker
Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds
Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options
Assassin: Teleports, Dash
Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually)

Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good.

RexAxyzun · Mar 06, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Can anyone post a good build to go on as a swordsman?

angmar_nite · Mar 06, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30

How do you pwn so much in pvp without a build?

Kyrein · Mar 06, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34

yeah......from your post we can see that you really don't know much about this game

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 06, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

Reading the sticky?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10216727

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Hmmm heres a couple:

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword.

For more options try:

www.pvxwiki.com

RexAxyzun · Mar 06, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

No, and I dont care, i dont play it everyday like some, but slowly but surely I am learning more and more about guildwars, and im getting better too. Sorry if im not uber pwnage, but I understand builds, and how they work.

Anyways.

I played alot of prophesies but quit, didnt decide to play factons long after release, and now im on nightfall. Im not that great at PvP, i just play random arenas with a warrior full of slashing attacks and I have actually put healing breeze in there for the hell of it. Sorry for giving you the wrong idea.

But im done with PvP, i just need help with PvE

By the way, I didnt mean my warrior didnt have a build, it was a tank / pure swordsman build.

RexAxyzun · Mar 06, 2008, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Reading the sticky?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10216727

Thats PVP I need a build for PvE

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Hmmm heres a couple:

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword.

For more options try:

www.pvxwiki.com

Frenzy in PvE?? Lol.

Jaher Dal · Mar 06, 2008, 06:43 AM // 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

a) U can change secondary's as many times as u want so in the end it doesnt make THAT big a difference.
b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's:

Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet
Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez,
Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock
Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker
Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds
Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options
Assassin: Teleports, Dash
Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually)

Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good.

I had to quote this, because this is a good start for you sir.
You can always change secondaries, so why don't you try a few different ones out, and see what works for you.
I think it is fun to try new things out and explore, and see what works and what doesn't.
If you are only focused on using Swords, then maybe try Ranger, like what was said, and bring apply poison and whatever else you feel like.
You can also try ele, and use Conjure (whatever mod you add to your sword), and have fun with that.
It is all up to you, and what you like.
Only you can figure out what is or is not fun to use when you play.
Good luck!

RexAxyzun · Mar 06, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Hmmm heres a couple:

[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword.

For more options try:

www.pvxwiki.com

Isnt that a little too much adrenaline needed?
And is Rush really needed?

Jaher Dal · Mar 06, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Well, use what ever works for you. You aren't forced to use the skills that were listed.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Frenzy without rush or other cancel stance = death.

And its not too much adrenaline because u can either a) use d-slash every hit whilst FGJ is up or b) go sever/gash s&m d-slash switch target repeat.

Basically it allows u to constantly unload ur adrenaline skills, or put alot of pressure on someone.

EDIT: Oh BTW the skill tags havent been updated, cripslash also causes bleeding, FGJ now causes 100% Adrenaline gain, and conjure does slightly more damage i think

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Frenzy without rush or other cancel stance = death.

Frenzy in PvE = Fail.

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Frenzy in PvE = Fail.

Not true, Frenzy used like an idiot anywhere = fail, u just need to know when to use it and when not to. If ur tanking the enemies then duh its an idiotic move to use it. If ur not, and ur not taking any damage, go for it and when u start, change to rush. In PVE if ur scared of the double damage, grab flail. However this will start to suck if ur foe kites, especially in HM.

Coloneh · Mar 06, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Frenzy in PvE = Fail.

not understanding cancel stance = fail

frenzy id fine if you dont suck/pay attention

Nightmares Hammer · Mar 06, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

Not true, Frenzy used like an idiot anywhere = fail, u just need to know when to use it and when not to. If ur tanking the enemies then duh its an idiotic move to use it. If ur not, and ur not taking any damage, go for it and when u start, change to rush. In PVE if ur scared of the double damage, grab flail. However this will start to suck if ur foe kites, especially in HM.

Firstly, leet is annoying, stop using it. Secondly Frenzy MIGHT work, but even then, Flails better...

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 06, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by RexAxyzun

Thats PVP I need a build for PvE

Warrior's in PvE - The how-to guide.

You think it's full of PvP stuff?

Luminarus · Mar 06, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Firstly, leet is annoying, stop using it. Secondly Frenzy MIGHT work, but even then, Flails better...

Leet how? I never mentioned anything about leet, everything i said is fair enough. Flail can be good in pve if ur not gonna have to move, which is rarer for HM. Either way ur gonna need a cancel stance, however frenzy is basically always ready, and its drawback is the most easily mitigated by cancelling whenever ur suffering damage.

Im not saying im leet, hell i havent touched my warrior in about 3 months. However I know from experience that cancel stancing is NOT difficult,

Mar 06, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14	#1
RexAxyzun Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008 Profession: R/	Warrior Secondary, Best for Everyone? If you tell me to just search next time, I wont. I searched warrior build and just warrior, it came up alot of random crap, so shut it and just hear me out. This is about warrior secondaries in PvE NOT PvP I have played every profession, and I keep coming back to the warrior. It is so amazing how cool the armor looks, and how many people hate me in PvP because of my uber pwnage. The thing is, I dont use a secondary professon in pvp, pure warrior here baby. Anyways. My first thought would be a W/R or W/N. Dont mind my noobness but there are spells that when someone physically attacts you, hey take damage. I dont know if these are traps or enchantments, whatever, its effective in PvP ill tell ya that. But warriors are major short on energy as it is, so I kinda moved on. Second thought: Monk. Every warrior i have seen today is monk. I believe this is classified as a "TANK" And i can see why. I also believe tanks use shields, who cares, their beasts, high damage, average heal when monk is an absolute noob. anyways. Just asking for ideas, dont wanna take a crap secondary only to find out I will suck ass in the long run (Pardon my language) Thanks, and cheers. Lieutenant Grigs, PS: I AM A SWORDSMAN / STRENGTH WARRIOR.

Mar 06, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47	#14
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Frenzy without rush or other cancel stance = death. And its not too much adrenaline because u can either a) use d-slash every hit whilst FGJ is up or b) go sever/gash s&m d-slash switch target repeat. Basically it allows u to constantly unload ur adrenaline skills, or put alot of pressure on someone. EDIT: Oh BTW the skill tags havent been updated, cripslash also causes bleeding, FGJ now causes 100% Adrenaline gain, and conjure does slightly more damage i think Last edited by Luminarus; Mar 06, 2008 at 06:50 AM // 06:50..

Mar 06, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21	#2
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	a) U can change secondary's as many times as u want so in the end it doesnt make THAT big a difference. b) Secondary should change depending on ur style or build, Below are uses for different secondary's: Ranger: Apply Poison, Antidote Signet, Pet Monk: Mending Touch, Mending (jks), Strength & Honor, Empathic Removal, WoH, Hard Rez, Ele: Conjure Element for more damage, Shock Necro: Plague Touch, Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread Mesmer: Only use i can think of is hex breaker Dervish: Rending Touch, Scythe Builds Paragon: Shouts, Spear Warriors ETC lots of options Assassin: Teleports, Dash Ritualist: VwK, Hard Rez (DPS usually) Im not saying these are all good, just pointing out some which are good.

Mar 06, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24	#3
RexAxyzun Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008 Profession: R/	Can anyone post a good build to go on as a swordsman?

Mar 06, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30	#4
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	How do you pwn so much in pvp without a build?

Mar 06, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34	#5
Kyrein Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Island of Undisclosed Location	yeah......from your post we can see that you really don't know much about this game

Mar 06, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40	#6
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Reading the sticky? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10216727

Mar 06, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#7
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Hmmm heres a couple: [skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] These are decent builds, but i normally dont run sword. For more options try: www.pvxwiki.com

Mar 06, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46	#13
Jaher Dal Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Clara, Ca Guild: Cobra Island Profession: D/E	Well, use what ever works for you. You aren't forced to use the skills that were listed.